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    For a while now, Carlos Barrera has been sending us here at R-G emails about his geared turbine engine design. He’s had it patented (in Mexico) since 1991 and somehow doesn’t seem to have found someone to buy the idea and use it. Personally, I think that there are good reasons for that unwillingness to mass-produce them. To me it looks like there are too many gears and vanes, and it’s going to fail pretty early even if it can be made. Somewhat like Rapael Morgado’s MYT engine in that way – it’s clever and may work, but not for long even if you do manage the engineering accurately enough. When making a heat engine, you have to allow for the thermal expansion of the different parts at varying temperatures, so the design has to get the tolerances right over the expected temperature differences. Not easy, and sometimes just plain impossible when the temperature differentials are large so a rethink/redesign is needed to make it manufacturable. For those who don’t have the experience, it’s hard even holding a 10-thou tolerance on turning something of a foot or so since as you progress the work heats and expands, so you need to keep the temperature of the workpiece constant and specified. If that ring also has gear teeth that need to mesh tightly enough to avoid too much backlash, you’re in trouble, and you have to fix that by designing extra mechanisms to adjust the backlash as the gears heat up. Not quite as simple as it looks.

    Gearturbine Inside View Conduits and Turbos

    That’s a picture of the internals of the system from the latest email Carlos sent. The exploded view is somewhat busy for the size of the picture, and the text becomes illegible, but this picture copes with the need for at least one illustration on an article….

    Carlos of course disagrees with my assessment, so I thought I’d put it up here for other people to weigh in with their ideas on what’s good and what’s not. For the next bit from Carlos, bear in mid that English is not his first language. Whether this is Googlish or just plain difficult I can’t really tell.

    Atypical InFlow Thermodynamic
    Technology Proposal Submission
    Novel Fueled Motor Engine Type

    *State of the art Innovative concept Top system Higher efficient percent.
    Have similar system of the Aeolipile Heron Steam device from Alexandria 10-70 AD. -New Form-Function Motor-Engine Device. Next Step, Epic Design Change, Broken-Seal Revelation. -Desirable Power-Plant Innovation.

    YouTube; * Atypical New • GEARTURBINE / Retrodynamic = DextroRPM VS LevoInFlow + Ying Yang Thrust Way Type – Non Waste Looses

    -This  innovative concept consists of hull and core where are held all 8 bteps of the work-flow which make the concept functional. The core has several gears and turbines which are responsible for these 8 steps (5 of them are dedicated to the turbo stages). The first step is fuel compression, followed by 2 cold turbo levels. The fourth step is where the fuel starts burning – combustion stage, which creates thrust for the next, 5th step – thrust step, which provides power to the planetary gears and turbines and moves the system. This step is followed by two hot turbo steps and the circle is enclosed by the final 8th step – bigger turbine. All this motion in a retrodynamic circumstance effect, wich is plus higher RPM speed by self motion. The Reaction at front of the action.

    *8-X/Y Thermodynamic CYCLE – Way Steps:
    1)1-Compression / bigger
    2)2-Turbo 1 cold
    3)2-Turbo 2 cold
    4)2-Combustion – circular motion flames / opposites
    5)2-Thrust – single turbo & planetary gears / ying yang
    6)2-Turbo 2 hot
    7)2-Turbo 1 hot
    8)1-Turbine / bigger

    -With Retrodynamic Dextrogiro vs Levogiro Phenomenon Effect. / Rotor-RPM VS InFlow / front to front; “Collision-Interaction Type” – inflow vs blades-gear-move. Technical unique dynamic innovative motion mode. [Retrodynamic Reaction = When the inflow have more velocity the rotor have more RPM Acceleration, with high (XY Position) Momentum] Which the internal flow (and rotor) duplicate its speed, when activated being in a rotor (and inflow) with [inverse] opposite Turns. A very strong Novel torque power concept.

    -Non waste parasitic looses for; friction, cooling, lubrication & combustion.      -Shape-Mass + Rotary-Motion = Inertia-Dynamic / Form-Function Wide [Flat] Cylindrical shape + positive dynamic rotary mass = continue Inertia kinetic positive tendency motion.

    -Combustion 2Two continue circular [Rockets] flames. [ying yang] opposite one to the other. – With 2TWO very long distance INFLOW [inside propulsion] CONDUITS. -4 TURBOS Rotary Total Thrust-Power Regeneration Power System. -Mechanical direct 2two [Small] Planetary Gears at polar position. -Like the Ying Yang Symbol/Concept. -Wide out the Rotor circumference were have much more lever [HIGH Torque] POWER THRUST. -No blade erosion by sand & very low heat target signature profile. -3 points of power thrust; 1-flow way, 2-gear, 3-turbine. *Patent; Dic. 1991 IMPI Mexico #197187 All Rights Reserved. Carlos Barrera.


    Incidentally the YouTube video has awful music and is narrated in (I think) Spanish, which I don’t speak. The captions are however English and you can pick up the basic ideas of how it works. I have no information about whether one of these has ever been made and tested, but I suspect there has never been a working example.

    OK, over to you. What do you think about it?

    NASA Research Yields New, Powerful and Green Fuel
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